What is a drainbow?

topic posted Sun, August 5, 2007 - 7:46 PM by  Brandon
Ive been hearing this word a lot lately, and was hoping some personal insights or descriptions or stories of or about drainbows?
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  • Re: What is a drainbow?

    Sun, August 5, 2007 - 9:45 PM
    Drainbows show up and 'drain' all the resources at a Gathering and contribute nothing (in return). They usually show up just for alcohol, drugs and to hopefully see girls with no clothes on. Sometimes they like to start crap because the conditions at a Gathering are 'less than favorable'.
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    Mon, August 6, 2007 - 8:46 AM
    you can also find "drainbows" all over the country.they are the ones who over stay there welcome,eat you out of house and home.don't have any respect for themselves or anyone else around.some of this id due to plain old ignorance and not catching on to what "family" is all about.all the while claiming to be family to get what they want from people.this also includes the ripp off's and scam artists.
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      Mon, August 6, 2007 - 4:56 PM
      Yeah this makes sense. A friend of mine had invited a could people home from arkansas gathering. All of her roomates had called them drainbows, and i didnt realize what they meant until your post. They sat around and ate and drank and smoked until the house was tapped, then moved on. Every family is dysfunctional, but why do some people feel the need to do this???

      Anyone have a particularly telling drainbow story? Drainbows deff. carry their attitude and demenor far from the gatherings


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        Re: What is a drainbow?

        Mon, August 6, 2007 - 5:54 PM
        A drianbow is some one who has not found a way to be Radically self reliant....

        That being said without the family I have who knows???
        I Could have been lost longer...

        Rainbow is mostly female (yin)
        The Burn Is (yang)
        • Re: What is a drainbow?

          Mon, August 6, 2007 - 6:12 PM
          Can this be addressed as something more serious,it appears that it does not occure in the European Families of Unity or that in the providences of Canada as it has changed Family ways and Rainbow Family seems to have degraded itself directly to those called drainbows,I have fed alot of anyone who wishes to come by(I'm not a kitchen)and no one shared a desire to help even in wood,water or just to come back and be loved,or share love.It has Drained my energy to deal with them and I am critisised for laying it on to trail trolls blocking passage without a toke,the joke is really them
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            Tue, August 7, 2007 - 6:19 AM
            The Drainbows I've met seem to be mostly young people. They've reached young adulthood with the values taught by their authority figures, parents, teachers, video games, and tv. Unfortunately, with that culture, they've learned to feel entitled. While they may have stepped off the path their parents may have chosen for them, they're waking up and really want to be a part of the Rainbow Family, they don't know how because they've not been taught what it really means to live cooperatively. They don't know yet that it takes all of us to create our families and that it's a cooperative effort, they've never lived it. I believe it's up to the elders to teach them what they've missed. I realize that there will be resistance from them, they 'don'wanna'...well, tough love, baby! We all know that current society has changed family structures, and that many young people grow up without authority figures in their lives. We also know that we learn from our experiences...perhaps it's time for us to give them the experience of working for what they's what our elders did for us...we learned, now we must teach.
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              Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:58 PM
              I can honor your opinion and your point-of-view but in a way it reads like a cop out.

              A justification for behaviors that (often enough can hardly be justified.

              I don't know that the young can be effectively initiated by example though my heart surely believes it. But I also believe that even the youngest of children should be made to account for some behaviors. It's not oppressing a child to be told that they're doing wrong and it isn't repressive when they are made to take a time out or are brought to task for breaking the sanctity of certain ideas, beliefs, codes, etc. That applies to both inside and outside of the family - any family - unit.

              When the behavior of one is detrimental to the larger whole then measured, sufficient action(s) are appropriate. The problem I've found in past gatherings is that there's no consensus on what those actions might entail. It's sort of like the old fable about who'll bell the cat. Everyone wants to weigh in but ultimately no one wants to take the necessary action.

              In ancient days, back in another time when Sparta was a city-state in Greece, people who were deemed problematic to the sanctity and security of of the city were 'drummed out.' That is, expelled by a formation of citizens who lined a path leading to the gates of the city. The individual was forced to walk the mile long path to the cadence of a beating drum which measured the judged person's steps as they walked to the gate where they were told to never return until such a time as they could prove to all others that they were worthy of re-claiming citizenship.

              Perhaps a bit dated and archaic an example to be sure but I've often wondered how the fabric of the gathering might be altered in a postitive sense if the collective will of the Rainbow Family could muster and agree on something similar.

              expel or dismiss from a military service in disgrace to the beat of a drum.
              b. to dismiss in disgrace: He was drummed out of the university for his gambling activities.
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              Re: What is a drainbow?

              Thu, July 30, 2009 - 9:46 AM
              ai ALMOST agree with this.

              the actual values are spoken of by eyes of fire and, well, there are lot of
              people in the Family who've been there for DECADES.

              they call themselves 'elders' but they don't give a SHIT about native people, their prophecy or values...

              the drainbows LAUGH and say 'that's cool, more drugs for us.'

              perhaps older WOMEN like pure peacebird or deighglough would speak a piece, but they don;t go to gatherings anymore,
              tired of being called WHORES by fifteen year olds who "elders" won't ever correct.

              that shit has been taking place since the diggers declared the death of hippie.

              sign me born in july '69
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                Thu, July 30, 2009 - 1:54 PM
                "perhaps older WOMEN like pure peacebird or deighglough would speak a piece, but they don;t go to gatherings anymore,
                tired of being called WHORES by fifteen year olds who "elders" won't ever correct."

                Then I'll say it. If this is the response by any man or man-child towards a woman speaking from the heart to an assembled group of people then the event deserves the slow, strangled death that awaits it at some point in forward time.

                The cowardice to take action in the face of a degrading situation for the sake of some bloated, contaminated definition of egalitarian 'rights' is certainly the sort of twisted anarchy that not only rips the fabric of the social contract but wipes its ass on it. I no longer want part of such a hypocritical charade.

                I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing what's behind the curtain that I'm looking behind.
                • Re: What is a drainbow?

                  Fri, July 31, 2009 - 8:12 PM
                  We are all of us teachers and all of us students of life. The one thing I know about gatherings, like much of life, is that if you go looking to been involved in teaching and learning, you will be surrounded by some of the most amazing people. As to what did or didn't happen in New Mexico this year, I am only one person and can only share what I experienced. If you're interested, see my blog posting at
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                Mon, October 10, 2011 - 9:20 AM
                Unsubscribed, AKA Mikal Haley, AKA Marques Devalia, AKA (fill in the blank), has an untreated mental illness. No one ever called me a "whore".

                No, I don't go to Rainbow Gatherings any more, but more than likely, it's not for any of the reasons that he gives/gave.

                Any women having sexual contact with him should beware, as he may be (unbeknownst to him) passing on a form of HPV that can cause cervical cancer.
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                  Mon, October 10, 2011 - 12:25 PM

                  You're setting yourself up for a charge of slander.

                  You're also in violation of the Terms of Service as a Tribe member.

                  Your willingness to say such things in a public forum without providing the accused the benefit to refute your claims suggests a cowardice that goes beyond the pale.

                  What a sad person you are.
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            Re: What is a drainbow?

            Tue, August 14, 2007 - 1:10 PM
            Well expectations suck to begin with...
            Americans have been sold a lie since birth and I don't know what to do about that.
            Americans are entitled and think theirs is the best system. Its what we have been taught amerika = best...

            Here (USA)We are so separated and alone that it is easy to believe that the world is against us and that there is no hope.
            We overall don't understand that there is no "away" "away". (we think if you put it over there and don't see it, it is gone and has no effect on others)
            This country DESTROYS people to turn them into slaves for someone else's benefit. Low education standards, low health standards.
            We are around 40th in almost every measure of what a great country does.
            The people who run our country, and most other countries, to an extent at least do not care about life at all.

            when a person wakes from the lies that have been spread by america they think that it is the same as what they already know, no surprise there.
            so when they make it home their not ready nor do they know what or how they CAN contribute.

            They are lost till they wake up.

            That does not mean don't let them come it means WE ARE THE HEALERS.
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            Re: What is a drainbow?

            Tue, June 30, 2009 - 3:41 PM
            It's odd to see the individuals defending the drains are unscribed members. For me it's hard to take anyone serious that won't at least indentify themselves. Europe has a much different mentality than the US. We have the entitlement mentality other countries even in Europe still don't get their basic needs and so they are greatful and respectful. (Not All) What happens is the young adults I have seen around are those that grew up playing Xbox and when Mom and Dad said get a job they took off and hit the road. These family members need time to grow up and if left to the world the world will teach you to grow up quick. A hand up and not hand out is what we need to provide.

            All I can say is don't get jaded help those who need help and let the others figure out what they even want. You can't save everyone especially those who don't want to be saved. If we want to be free we have to accept everyone openly but, we don't have to carry them.
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              Re: What is a drainbow?

              Thu, July 30, 2009 - 9:49 AM
              and as an american i say that
              people who think that 'get a job and work'

              came to america in the 1600s and
              established a WORK OR DIE policy
              where once people lived in a paradise taht rainbow family seeks to repeat.

              i think that's why rainbow came from a native american prophecy

              the aborigfinal tribals in all natiopns, evn the british isles
              had the same way of life destroyed by monotheism. DESTROYED! save memories.
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          Fri, August 24, 2007 - 10:41 AM
          I love that... 'Radically self reliant'. I believe it's my human calling to help others in need, but only to an extent. If I help someone and they're not learning anything from my helping out, they either don't want to or can't and it's time for me to move on, find someone who will really benefit from my help. If someone can't become 'Radically self reliant' when taught by someone who learned from someone else, the chain is then broken and it's time to find a new link. I was drained just reading Kaya's story about Sarah and her friends, I wouldn't put up with that, and it's not being mean spirited, it's tough love. To spange is one thing, to sponge is something else.
          Side note: I'm going to WV outta Cleveland 8-31, gonna stay 3 or 4 days. I have room for 3 and gear, maybe 1 dog. Green energy or jug the van helpful. Leave me a message.
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        Tue, August 7, 2007 - 9:25 AM's it going Brandon?! Long time no write! Heehee...

        MAN I gotta Drainbow story!

        On the road to AZ we stopped in NOLA for about 4 mos. Met a hippie mama named Sarah I. She was sweet as pie! Helped her sell jewelry and herbs, she let us stay at her place for a week on the couch. We were very courteous and left as soon as the week was up - no questions!

        Fast forward a year and 3 months. November, 5 days before thanksgiving. Living in Phoenix AZ. A phone call comes in..."Hey, it's Sarah I!" I'm like SHIT! NICE! CoME ON OVER! Well, she shows up with about 5 friends. No biggie. I mean we only had a 1 bedroom studio sized space, but they said they'd help out, cook, clean and not stay long. I should mention that they also had 2 big dogs. Again, someone for my pit to play with - totally cool. Well, I was a working woman, and my man worked too. We were gone all day, but trusted them. At first, maybe 2 days? They did clean, cook, buy food, etc.

        When they ran out of funds, we bought enough food for everyone to have a huge feast on Thanksgiving. We were happy to - no biggie. Cost us about $150 to feed all 9 people who were there. We didn't have much money, and actually Sarah spanged about $50 of it. Cool.

        They needed to get jobs temporarily they decided. I helped one girl, Anna, get a job at an escort agency. No one else was working, no one else was looking, no one else was paying for shit. Anna took on the high responsibility of trying to make up for what she knew were her Drainbow friends. Well, they make her feel like total shit, and she freaks out and goes back to NE. Now, we have 5 nonworking hipppies in the house. It's been 2 weeks. They stopped cooking, cleaning, helping out entirely.

        Sarah and her man Jake take the dog to get sympathy while spanging on an overpass in Phx. Dog runs into street, gets hit, breaks leg.

        I take her and the dog to the emergency vet. She has no money. We each apply for credit with them. Denied. I pull $400 of my rent money to fromnt her for the dog - I can't let it rot in dog jail! We take it home. I continue to provide a ride for follow-up.

        I should mention Sarah was what appeared to be a total Rainbow doll! Happy happy hippy! I knew she had a temper, but as she lived there, it became obvious that she was bordering on consistently violent. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, and allowed her friends to stay on HER vouching for them. I try to be good Family.

        Thankfully, at the end of Day 17, the others move on, and its only her and her man. They still don't find work. She sleeps all day and does nothing. She smokes my shit, eats my food, etc. Ditto with Jake, only he was occasionally trying to find work (to no avail). Rent comes the next month, and cuz of the dog loan still unpaid, I can't afford it. Instead of busting her ass to help, or asking for help, or trying to get work at all, what does she do? Leaves, after calling me a cunt and threatening my life for asking for help so I don't get evicted.

        Guess what?! I got evicted. I did everything I could to compensate, but still came up behind on rent. I suppose I should be thankful. Because we lost our home, we had to hit the road again, living in forests for a year or so on the way to the East Coast again. Great experiences and all, but I would've liked to have made the decision of when to hit the Rainbow Trail again ON MY OWN, eh?


        And since I'm such GOOD FAMILY, I still love her. If I saw her, I'd hug her, and forgive her if she asked. As a side note, a mere month later her man secured a VERY high-paying job, they got a place in Tempe, NICE apartment, and never payed us back a dime, despite our asking months later.



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    Tue, August 7, 2007 - 8:57 AM
    "drainbows" are everywhere. they are like little vampires
    who suck your energy, sometimes unconsciously, sometimes
    not. there are so many reasons why some are like this that
    its tough to know where to start. some don't know better,
    some do. but for those who want to learn, they shall be
    taught. for those that don't, they walk their own paths
    until they figure out that their "ways" don't work out too well.

    perhaps these young ones have seen the state of
    affairs as it is (in their families, country & beyond)
    and have lost hope and say fuck it.
    know a good bunch of peeps that have. they have seen
    nothing but hate, power, control, etc. we show them
    something different. but only if they want to open
    their eyes to see. as rainbow, we force nothing.
    we understand the "drainbows" and live by example.
    shit, i was a drainbow at my first gathering. i didn't
    have a clue what was going on. i was very lost in
    my life at the time. i came out of that gathering
    with new vision, hope & love. we pray for all.
    we's all family.

    lovin y' all-

    ps>there are so many "drainbow" stories. but you can probably use your imagination...
    • Re: What is a drainbow?

      Tue, August 7, 2007 - 7:53 PM
      we call then 'hospitality nazis' , take take take, and then vroooom, they vanish. Grrrrr.
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        Mon, August 13, 2007 - 10:35 PM
        i kinda think the first rainbow and the teenager thing is less drainbow and more bliss ninny
        the patience to allow it to sink in is necessary for the first time (maybe even two) of gatherings and then
        folks ought to realize how all the bliss flows is by everyone throwing something into the pot
        it takes a minute too to see where you can contribute if you are not used to being worth something or having it all done for you
        both ways and others take adjustment to get into flow with it
        I honestly think part of the flow for most people is relaxing into it at first and enjoying it so you have a good solid feeling of what you
        are contributing too

        not the same for folks who do nothing but bounce from place to place taking and not come so many like that are so insulting?
        probably because it has worked for them to scare people into doing what they want or to make people search for the nice feelings again and not have to have confrontations......Lots of drainbows outside rainbow......I had kids stealing my sisters liquor when I lef tthe door unlocked so they could shower. We were 14 they were runaways same concept but smaller........I guess one of em was doin dope already, often enough thats a factor or a cover up for the issue like alcohol
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          Fri, August 24, 2007 - 3:11 PM
          Perhaps the socio-economic class disparity within the family is a major factor that causes some family to be perceived as "drainbows". . . .....obviously if drugs are involved, this is going to play a role in all of this......heroine addicts are not drainbows, they are sick from their dope. . .alcoholics as well are not "drainbows" they are sick from their addictions......

          and as well there are all different manner of perceptions, ways in which we see the world......folks coming from upper middle class backgrounds are going to see the world through a completely different set of eyes than folks coming from lower middle class backgrounds...

          then I'm sure as well there are many stories of family coming from abusive backgrounds that might lead others to perceive them as "drainbows", when really their behavior is most likely the only way they know how to respond and interact with the world......

          that is why the family is so large, because everyone plays an important part. . . . .. when you are trying to see clearly through Maya's veil, when you start to notice what babylon / samsara / maya, whatever you call it.....this is an awakening process, and sometimes i imagine folks don't even realize their "drainbow" type behaviors.....

          no one is totally self reliant.. ..we are all interconnected.....and if you think you are the one who is totally self reliant, if this is how you are going to see the world, then what else are you going to see, but folks who are taking what it is that you have to offer.......


          as always, harmony & blessings,
          love, light, & a biscuit.....

          and give thanks, rise up greet.....bless this new day

          (to life)
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            Fri, August 24, 2007 - 3:14 PM
            and as a side note.....sometimes you don't realize how great it is to have people at your house sharing your food with you until they are gone. . .......that's one thing i notice right away, when I'm in a town and I can't find any family......that's when i remember all the folks who have stayed on my couch eating all my food, leaving their dirty dishes in the sink.....and that's when I really miss them . . . ...

            Upfulness Shun Ivity
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              Re: What is a drainbow?

              Fri, August 24, 2007 - 6:59 PM
              oh shit I stared crying through the first post...
              alright now I will friend you Brother! even though I cant type through the tears.
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                Sun, August 26, 2007 - 10:33 PM
                honestly, family is family because it accepts everyone
                at the gatherings especially
                at the same time it is important to create and reatin boundaries about how your energy is dealt with
                allowing people to suck you dry doesn't help anyone
                and people who are mean to those who are sharing with them
                and folks who are caught in cycles of behaivior that injure others cause draining
                ...peronal experience notes: at my first gathering I looked someone in the eyes because someone hollered"this guy smokes crack" and pointed at him, said person did not say a word but I looked him in the eyes and instantly felt like I was floating in not such a good way (I had been sober for near a month at the time) I went straight to calm...YAY calm the first thing the guy said is that I looked like the victim of a psychic vampire attack

                All of us have problems most of us have issues in their background, most of us have been a drain on someone else's resources or many peoples resources (being a drain is different than participating in normal intereliance and usually is not just a financial thing) at one time or another.That ;however, does not make the drain non-existent. Taking responsibility for yoursefl, even as far as recognizing and communicating that you don't have and you need help with things in a straightforward way, willingness to do whatever little things you can even if its just cleaning someones bathtub as a houseguest is all things to head towards and sometimes recognizing what to move away from and what perils may exist in helping those who are not going that way are all part of encouraging a culture of more responsibility in a micro/macrocosm sort of way
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                  Re: What is a drainbow?

                  Mon, August 27, 2007 - 3:32 PM
                  Yes, I believe that we all take some responsibility in the energy exchanges around us.
                  If we are truly secure within ourself, then it is impossible for a person to "drain" your energy, wether it be on the material plane or any other plane.
                  many mahalos
                  love chi
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                    Re: What is a drainbow?

                    Mon, August 27, 2007 - 3:33 PM
                    ah yes and a side note, Until we realize this, there will always be seperation.
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                      Mon, August 27, 2007 - 4:24 PM
                      I would have to agree with that. We have to be secure, especially emotional secure.

                      Sometimes it's hard for us to realize that the world does not revolve around us.

                      I wonder if this is your response everytime you meet someone who is feeling down, having a bad day, or if they are a friend falling in to cycles of addiction. Any time you meet someone who is not 100% happy, do you call them an energy vampire? If so, how do you function outside of your home?

                      Alot of this new age crap. that's what it is. A bunch of cock-a-mei-mei new age crapola. Just because you aren't in control of your own emotional state, or because you're not in complete control of the vibe around you, you go around labeling folks as energy vampires.....

                      if that ain't the stupidest thing i ever heard, then I'll be done seen about everything -

                      (when I see an elephant fly)

                      YOU DIRTY HIPPIES! ! !
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                        Mon, August 27, 2007 - 5:04 PM
                        True dat!
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                          Tue, September 4, 2007 - 5:04 AM

                          I believe that many others can share a similar story. In my experience you just really need to know when to say no. 5 people, two dogs, one one bedroom apartment, sounds like trouble. The story usually goes that way: They help at first, then completely stop, then bail. I am really touched by what you did for their dog. Personally I think that if more family learned when to say no, there would be less burnt family. Because of my inability to say no, i have been literally robbed blind by people who claim to be family. I really don't consider someone to be family or rainbow just because they live on the streets. My two cents only and just an opinion to throw in the hat.

                          love is home
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                            Tue, September 4, 2007 - 8:38 AM
                            5 PEOPLE AND A DOG IN A ONE BEDROOM? THAT'S NOTHING.


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                        Re: What is a drainbow?

                        Wed, July 15, 2009 - 8:46 AM
                        of vampires don't want anyone TALKING about energy vampires.

                        also of soon as you hear "new age crap"

                        you can KNOW you are hearing from someone who is stuck in old-world energy, being sort of fakely sincere...

                        if there were never any people who had it down -- the real sharing love and non-miserable happy anarchy that the rainbow family of love and light actually is, no one would EVER find drainbows as out of balance.

                        as it is the one big give away is

                        the rainbow family prphpecy comes from indigeonous Native America. Effing Allen Butcher told me himself that the family had NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIVE me, he is one of the hugest soul-sucks there is.
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                  i don't know when it happened but i know one thing
                  and i have debated it inwardly with myself. also, more importantly i have STANK
                  bad enough to know it was me. for long periods of time.

                  i think the mistake is when people STINK THAT HARD as a POLITICAL STATEMENT
                  and have no other political statements to make other than the same half-thought (if that) tired old cliches.

                  THAT'S when it combines and seems to form POSEURDOM.

                  i remember specificially being involved with punk scenes that have dissolved
                  but EVERYBODY didn't STINK UNIFORMLY.

                  NOT ONLY is that a form of counter culture conformity and thus the living, STINKING antithesis of anarchy
                  it's that they have no other political stance and don't even understand the politcial and social force of stinking body hygeiene.

                  stinking sends a message to the very priveleged that no one should have to pay extra for equal access to utilities.

                  but around the 1990s, folk being CONSCIOUS of the why behind that sort of social hygeiene faded out
                  and there were just more people stinking becaus ethe others stank. (i.e. they were going along with th corwd,
                  they didn't understand the politics behind class struggle. few people did.)

                  as the whole maelstrom of corporate cultural collapse grows more obvious and ominous
                  it will still be apparent to people: what side people take on class war.

                  when they are dirty caucasian youth who don't embrace the causes of the native americans -- AT ALL
                  and yet still claim that the rainbow family prophecy represents them

                  it's up to people who are feeling co-opted to do something different.

                  getting involved in a war with them is a MISTAKE
                  because it wastes time. if they wanna fuckin' stink, let 'em.

                  there are ways for people who care about the ORIGINAL GOALS of the rainbow family of living light to figure it out.
                  as it is now, i work in a boulder soup kitchen and there are drainbows here. they STINK so fuckin' bad it's almost hard to think
                  and they do shit like:

                  take and take and take and offer next to nothing.
                  own DOGS and have their dogs SHIT EVERYWHERE (adding dog shit flavour to the already legendary ass stink)
                  usually are misogynist/homophobic/racist

                  if you let their attitude represent as being what is really rainbow and don't stand out and make a difference
                  they are what people remember. next is you saying "well, i don't care, i don't care."
                  and indifference is the ANTI-LOVE that a certain mentality wants to rule and define our Family.

                  it's more important than that.

                  accepting everyone for what they are is fine.
                  but as it stands now the unconscious and denial based
                  are claiming to represent US and doing it in loud and STINKING ways that don't make us look cool, just cliched.

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                    After catching some newer post here,I realized that some things never change,but there were glimmers of hope if one were willing to learn some basic repect that all find exceptable behavior.A-Camp seems to have come along way of dusty roads and change.It all started with the Nam vets who shared their life tramaus unfold in a world a fascism.Our government sent kids to fight our battles,and when they returned-who patted a tramatized vet on the back.The rainbow family allow their behaviors of alcoholic consumption to be accepted but not so much in sacred grounds.Though they drank,I have many brothers and sisters of A-Camp who would lend a hand to any fallen soul.
                    The Drinbows are like a parisite thriving on the willingness of a kind heart and/or that through enough intimidation you'd give up a joint just to leave in peace.I see them everywhere now.what created this snaphoo is hard to say.They are in numbers like gangs with good intentions-but only for themselves.I find it hard to turn a friendly visitor drop by and ask if I had anymore fruit cocktail,brownies,and even asked to cook and feed because they're hungry.There is a toll being taken here and it won;t last or be tolerated.To have concensus at dinner time seems to be innapropiate,but as a family,who would come an congragate by word of mouth-its always open ended.
                    So for my additions I thank my brothers and sisters-Mikal,Sister Tantric and Gina for your needed input and observances.I am clueless as to what to say or do anymore but tolerate.Not my choice of options because some just don.t care,and if you openly agreed it would be political hiracracy.
                    So for those who come-understand these few things---To fight any battle by force is that of ignorance.To win the hearts of those who care and love is to have won a battle.Always stand ground rather than tolerate one behavior.This may change.
                    Now for natural laws-thers the universal law of what goes around,comes around.Break these chains to change-its our only constant.Open up and have cuddle puddles-people love them and you might to.Open that rightous self,learn all that there is to learn to be free.You are your worst enemy to overcome,welcome yourself home and others will follow.....Stay Beautiful everyone
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                      a little off topic, but I hate seeing a perfectly good word mangled...hence the quick etymology lesson.

                      "what created this snaphoo is hard to say"

                      snafu is the word and it's proper spelling. It's origin was in WWII as an acronym, standing for: situation normal-all fucked up; snafu. I may be mistaken but I believe I read somewhere that the first time it was used in literature was Joseph Heller's book, Catch-22.

          • Re: What is a drainbow?

            Mon, August 24, 2009 - 10:12 AM
            I see Rainbow as a safe place to come and learn what the culture we came from didn't teach us, that for our community to thrive, whatever it may be, each of us needs to play a part, SOMEONE creates the gathering, makes it happen... and it usually doesn't take very many gatherings to realize this and find your place.

            While economic background may be an indicator, I'd imagine it's predominantly the suburban refugees and the trusty kids that are often the worst drainbows for the longest. Growing up in poorer families, I think many learn the value of their work and the need for contribution, as it is with the Rainbow Family as a whole.

            I know brothers and sisters from rich families that (chronically!) leave their shit everywhere, because they never learned to value it, buy it again later. When we start to do more than just gather, this becomes a problem, and our (Rainbow) culture is rife with it, just like the culture we've born from.
            • Re: What is a drainbow?

              Sun, August 30, 2009 - 10:14 PM
              "I see Rainbow as a safe place to come and learn what the culture we came from didn't teach us, that for our community to thrive, whatever it may be, each of us needs to play a part, SOMEONE creates the gathering, makes it happen... and it usually doesn't take very many gatherings to realize this and find your place."

              An honorable idea. But when those running a cultural deficit turn to others in the family in order to prey or exploit what mechism is (or should be) in place to deter such behaviors? I find it somewhat naive to default back to the whole treat with love and kindness suggestion suggestion. Not that I'm suggesting that's what you either mean or are saying Joshua. My experiences with Drainbows has been that anything other than calling people out on their behavior is often enough a way to continually encourage and enable such negative energy.
              • Unsu...

                Re: What is a drainbow?

                Mon, August 31, 2009 - 5:12 PM
                I make full use of honest in those situations, if I feel like the circumstances warrant it. And not every time, but certainly a large portion I get thanked. Some times by others, sometimes even the person that got schwagged. In turn, I have to accept and consider if another belly feels the 'circumstances warrant it' and I get schwagged. It's happened before, not willing to take any bets that it won't happen again. But I'm not gonna lose much sleep over having called some one out.

                Let's take Spirit for instance...if you've been around the last dozen or so years you will have noticed marked changes in his behavior. Initially, love and kindness was largely ineffective on the brother. He'd still put his dirty hand in the pots no matter how many times you asked him nicely not to, and more... . But he finally started getting barred from being in LOTS of kitchens at all, or only outside the bliss rails- like a dog. Now was this the nicest behavior? Hell no. But a combination of tough love AND love and kindness has helped Spirit to become receptive to the awareness that his hygiene and behaviors could be considered detrimental to the well-being of his brothers and sisters. He hasn't reached in to a pot in any kitchen I been in for a while now. 8)

                But a friend of mine described what a drainbow is perfectly. The basic gist is you have two main qualities in people as the metrics: productivity and bullshit. As long as productivity out weights bullshit, we're all good. When the ratio becomes more bull shit than productivity, we need to reconsider your role in the movie.

        • Unsu...

          Re: What is a drainbow?

          Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:12 PM
          if you drain all the color and vibrance and love from a rainbow does it turn
          a: white
          b: black
          c: grey and sort of faded looking like the energy's gone.

          older heads are not necessarily cooler heads but we know: COINTELPRO
          was created in the sixties and seventies precisely to make sure what
          happens now is happening:

          high holy hippies like "Butcher" insisting that the Rainbow Family of Living Light has nothing to do with native Americans.

          it DOES and now whites who once again have coopted an indigeonous tradition are

          wasting the wed
          raping the young females and training them to act like it's all they deserve
          and making the most rainbow people feel unwelcome.

          we cal it koyaanisquatscene -- punks out of balance.

          they won't wash and stink bad and eat a lot of meat and stink worse and are proud of it (or are they?)

          they fagbash. that's never been OUR family.

          basically the whole thing is compromised
          and the shittiest, most hateful and fake people
          took over, run it, "make rules", "organize" and basically suck the FUN out.
          that's the drain.

          the REAL family of love and light definitely INCLUDES to tribes of,
          oh, the native woman who came up with the prophecy.

          but "Butcher" needs to "be in charge"...

          the crusty poseurs are not anarchy, either.
          rushing to "go to the gathering and work" -- right. no sense of PLAY there,
          it's the same rat race set up as the world.

          oh, that and uh...
          • Unsu...

            Re: What is a drainbow?

            Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:12 PM
            Prophecy" "Warriors of the Rainbow"

            There was an old lady, from the "Cree" tribe, named "Eyes of Fire", who prophesied that one day, because of the white mans' or Yo-ne-gis' greed, there would come a time, when the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be, mankind as we would know it would all but cease to exist.

            There would come a time when the "keepers of the legend, stories, culture rituals, and myths, and all the Ancient Tribal Customs" would be needed to restore us to health. They would be mankinds’ key to survival, they were the "Warriors of the Rainbow". There would come a day of awakening when all the peoples of all the tribes would form a New World of Justice, Peace, Freedom and recognition of the Great Spirit.
            • Unsu...

              Re: What is a drainbow?

              Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:14 PM
              (cut and pasted by indigo tree)

              The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would spread these messages and teach all peoples of the Earth or "Elohi". They would teach them how to live the "Way of the Great Spirit". They would tell them of how the world today has turned away from the Great Spirit and that is why our Earth is "Sick".

              The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would show the peoples that this "Ancient Being" (the Great Spirit), is full of love and understanding, and teach them how to make the "Earth or Elohi" beautiful again. These Warriors would give the people principles or rules to follow to make their path right with the world. These principles would be those of the Ancient Tribes. The Warriors of the Rainbow would teach the people of the ancient practices of Unity, Love and Understanding. They would teach of Harmony among people in all four comers of the Earth.

              Like the Ancient Tribes, they would teach the peoples how to pray to the Great Spirit with love that flows like the beautiful mountain stream, and flows along the path to the ocean of life. Once again, they would be able to feel joy in solitude and in councils. They would be free of petty jealousies and love all mankind as their brothers, regardless of color, race or religion.
              • Unsu...

                Re: What is a drainbow?

                Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:15 PM

                fake people HAVE to suck up and make a minisystem just like the big system.

                THAT'S why creeps left the city's filth on Shasta in '04,
                that's why the tweekers killed that pig and there was blood everywhere.

                They would feel happiness enter their hearts, and become as one with the entire human race. Their hearts would be pure and radiate warmth, understanding and respect for all mankind, Nature, and the Great Spirit. They would once again fill their minds, hearts, souls, and deeds with the purest of thoughts. They would seek the beauty of the Master of Life - the Great Spirit! They would find strength and beauty in prayer and the solitudes of life.

                Their children would once again be able to run free and enjoy the treasures of Nature and Mother Earth. Free from the fears of toxins and destruction, wrought by the Yo-ne-gi and his practices of greed. The rivers would again run clear, the forests be abundant and beautiful, the animals and birds would be replenished. The powers of the plants and animals would again be respected and conservation of all that is beautiful would become a way of life.

                The poor, sick and needy would be cared for by their brothers and sisters of the Earth. These practices would again become a part of their daily lives.

                The leaders of the people would be chosen in the old way - not by their political party, or who could speak the loudest, boast the most, or by name calling or mud slinging, but by those whose actions spoke the loudest. Those who demonstrated their love, wisdom, and courage and those who showed that they could and did work for the good of all, would be chosen as the leaders or Chiefs. They would be chosen by their "quality" and not the amount of money they had obtained. Like the thoughtful and devoted "Ancient Chiefs", they would understand the people with love, and see that their young were educated with the love and wisdom of their surroundings. They would show them that miracles can be accomplished to heal this world of its ills, and restore it to health and beauty.

                The tasks of these "Warriors of the Rainbow" are many and great. There will be terrifying mountains of ignorance to conquer and they shall find prejudice and hatred. They must be dedicated, unwavering in their strength, and strong of heart. They will find willing hearts and minds that will follow them on this road of returning "Mother Earth" to beauty and plenty - once more.

                The day will come, it is not far away. The day that we shall see how we owe our very existence to the people of all tribes that have maintained their culture and heritage. Those that have kept the rituals, stories, legends, and myths alive. It will be with this knowledge, the knowledge that they have preserved, that we shall once again return to "harmony" with Nature, Mother Earth, and mankind. It will be with this knowledge that we shall find our "Key to our Survival".

                This is the story of the "Warriors of the Rainbow" and this is my reason for protecting the culture, heritage, and knowledge of my ancestors. I know that the day "Eyes of Fire" spoke of - will come! I want my children and grandchildren to be prepared to accept this task.The task of being one of the........"Warriors of the Rainbow".
                • Unsu...

                  Re: What is a drainbow?

                  Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:16 PM
                  maybe the sun didn't actually die.

                  wovaka was an old soul maybe.

                  i know that there will be freedom when people know what to do
                  instead of looking for leaders to make their own brains lazy.

                  (see "why is punk dead" thread.)
                • Re: What is a drainbow?

                  Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:38 PM
                  THAT'S why creeps left the city's filth on Shasta in '04

                  Jesus, I remember that. I left feeling ashamed. Several of us spent six hours trying to help clean that town of as much trash and refuse as we could. I left feeling like I needed to take five showers. Not because I was dirty so much as I felt sickened that so many people could be so clueless and care so little.
                • Re: What is a drainbow?

                  Tue, June 30, 2009 - 9:18 PM
                  Drainbows are more the sreet urchins and yes the freeloaders but may I say Most drainbows have serious Mental Issues that have not been addressed so like the aa folks say There for the Grace of God There go I ? Think long and hard about this my brothers and sisters. I hate that expression would not want to be YOU ! I say Communicate with love you win Minds and hearts and some of us learn TRUST, Yes integrity must be shown and explained to some for they are Just late Bloomers. Be someones Spiritual guide. Be a mentor to a lost soul some time. It is important to remember to be teachers and sometimes you will be the student. Be Kind, Be wise and always Only Give what you are wanting to return in ABUNDANCE. Come on people get real You are an image that of yourself you see in others , mirrors. Just being too depressed to often can be drainbow to a friend. It all about Life is for Learning like Joni Mitchel sang when she wrote Woodstock !
  • Re: What is a drainbow?

    Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:34 PM
    What is a drainbow?

    A drainbow is an individual (or a group) of folks who come into the nearest town where the gathering is being held - usually a small town - and proceed to steal from the local small businesses that are run by people just trying to get by. A drainbow is that same person (or group) that skulks around the same town and steals the drying clothes of a clothesline in someone's back yard.

    But most of all a drainbow is a mind set. A sense of absolute entitlement that allows a person (or a group) to dismiss concerns or consideration of the social contract so that in the end seeing to one's needs and wants takes precedence above all other things.

    Drainbow has many synonyms: parasite, thief, deadbeat, bloodsucker, freeloader, leech, sponge, moocher, loser....
  • Re: What is a drainbow?

    Tue, June 30, 2009 - 9:11 PM
    Yes all of that maybe true but they come from families that may not have taught them well and it is our duty to help them in their path to learn how to do the Random Acts of Kindness. i also heard once there was a commune in Drain oregon, Is there such a place that ever existed. No Family is perfect and back to the Garden like Woodstock The gathering of the rainbow tribe is to teach TOLERANCE remove the Ignorance so sayeth Gina Shama mama !
    • Jen
      offline 5

      Re: What is a drainbow?

      Fri, July 3, 2009 - 3:33 PM
      My son's father is a drainbow. I took him to his first gathering last year hoping he'd catch some lessons from the rest of the family since he doesn't listen to me anymore, but he is - let's just say - resistant.

      I don't know how to keep my son from being influenced by that except to keep exposing him to Family. I have my faults as well, and that's what keeps me going. I give too much! Since I was a child, I gave to try to influence people to like me. Giving with the expectation of winning hearts and friends isn't very healthy. My Family, however, taught me that when you make service to others a regular part of your life, it will be repaid in ways you never expected, and almost never by the people who you expect to get it from. Made me a little less cynical, at least. I still have much to learn, as I am still here roaming this planet!

      LOVE to all the family like me who couldn't make it home this year.
      • Re: What is a drainbow?

        Thu, October 13, 2011 - 3:31 AM
        Just read the posts here. My only addition is my own story. My 1st Gathering was in 1986. I was traveling with relatives in FLorida met a rainbow brother named piper I think and he brought me to the gathering that was an island off the Keys. I was 19. I showed up with nothing, and left with a back pack and other traveling supplies. I knew nothing about how to take care of myself and was shown love and acceptance by the people at the gathering. I hooked up with Van at that gathering and traveled with him for 4 months, ending up in Gainsville Fl. I was sick, dirty, malnurished and still did't know how to take care of myself. I ended up in the old swamp house with Rainbow Bear, Paul, Paul, Deighglough, Krishna Doug, and others. THese kind folks fed me, let me contribute nothing, do nothing to pitch in--you name it. I simply did not even realize that I should have been helping. I was that not tuned in. I ended up getting psychotic after taking LSD and these same folks baby sat me and took care of me when Van split. I was a drainbow. I was young and naive and came from sheltered background--I was not maliciousley being draining--I just was incapable of putting anything into the pot. I would have surely been very bad off if I had not been taken care of by these kind brothers and sisters. I grew up over the years. I learned how to contribute. I lived with Rainbow Bear 20 years later and we shared a home and split everything equally and were able to host other family...I was a young mother and I had grown up. I am truly grateful for the many folks who were there for me when I was too dumb to wipe my own ass. THese were my thoughts upon reading these posts.
  • Re: What is a drainbow?

    Mon, May 6, 2013 - 10:03 PM
    There was someone at a recent Rainbow Gathering that was more sober than almost everyone else in attendance, had been to several other Gatherings in the past, and was one of the original administrators for the invitation webpage. Despite all of this, he was considered a drainbow and told to leave. How could this happen?

    First of all, this was the first ever and at the time of writing only existing Rainbow "Crystal" Gathering. If you are not familiar with RCL, google it. The drainbow 's reputation arrived before himself as one who leaves his stuff out everywhere, taking but never giving. His first week at the Gathering was no exception in which he proceeded to make what he called organite and others called toxic waste. Whatever it was, he completely and continuously covered a community and dining table in one of the kitchens with what he even admitted to be toxic materials. He then proceeded to leave this stuff strewn about the limited community space to sell his work for funds that were never seen contributed towards magic hat. He left for a week to do this and came back for another week to make more. His second time at the Gathering he asked to buy produce from neighboring farmers without having cash on him, claiming to pay them back later which never happened until he was asked to do so the day he was also asked to leave. One neighbor was so bothered by his persistent begging and taking without giving that he had to ask him to leave at which point he came back to the Gathering making criticisms of a neighbor who lives in the area permanently. A few days later he was reported to have been in a communal area of the Gathering criticizing Rainbow Gatherings without any sort of solution or desire to find a solution to the problems he saw. A few more days later he left again for a week and a few days after returning he was told to leave.

    Was it right to consider this person a "drainbow" and right to ask him to leave?
    • K
      offline 283
      Re this thread, earlier:
      "Prophecy" "Warriors of the Rainbow"

      'There was an old lady, from the "Cree" tribe, named "Eyes of Fire", who prophesied that one day, because of the white mans' or Yo-ne-gis' greed, there would come a time, when the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be, mankind as we would know it would all but cease to exist.

      'There would come a time when the "keepers of the legend, stories, culture rituals, and myths, and all the Ancient Tribal Customs" would be needed to restore us to health. They would be mankinds’ key to survival, they were the "Warriors of the Rainbow". There would come a day of awakening when all the peoples of all the tribes would form a New World of Justice, Peace, Freedom and recognition of the Great Spirit.'

      I have addressed this at another thread on this tribe,
      "Re the Warriors of the Rainbow as prophecy : Native American, and also Mahayana Buddhist, but NOT Abrahamic"

      It is important to note that there are SEVERAL prophecies involved, and that the teaching and community is open and universal.


      "The vision I see is not only a movement of direct democracy, of self- and co-determination and non-violence, but a movement in which politics means the power to love and the power to feel united on the spaceship Earth... In a world struggling in violence and dishonesty, the further development of non-violence - not only as a philosophy but as a way of life, as a force on the streets, in the market squares . . . - becomes one of the most urgent priorities."
      Petra Kelly, Green Movement organizer

      The rule of no realm is mine, neither of Gondor nor any other, great or small. But all worthy things that are in peril as the world now stands, those are my care. And for my part, I shall not wholly fail of my task, though Gondor should perish, if anything passes through this night that can still grow fair or bear fruit and flower again in days to come. For I also am a steward. Did you not know?’
      Gandalf the White, speaking to Denethor

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